Electoral College Follies

By Charlie Johnston

(As the mouthy ignorant and uninformed are busily trying to jettison the electoral college once more, I repeat a piece I first wrote for a secular publication long ago. I originally wrote this little piece on the Electoral College in 2008. It was first published in the Chicago Daily Observer and then, a day later, in the Illinois Review – I was a columnist for both journals at the time. It was picked up later by several national outlets, most notably the American Conservative Union. It has some dated references, such as to then-Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, one of four Illinois governors in my lifetime to go to prison. But I left it whole.

It is heavier on the snark than I usually am here. I was significantly snarkier when I was writing on culture and politics. It does reflect the contempt I have for the modern practice of loudly shouting opinions without taking even a moment to learn a little about what you are talking about. I illustrated this point once when I was in radio by announcing that the next day, we would have a free discussion on the electoral college. You were free to express whatever opinion you wanted – but only if you could first give me a substantially accurate thumbnail of why the founders set it up in the first place. I expected only a couple of people to get through the screening. To my disappointment, none did.

One of the great evils of modern times, an evil that has helped bring us to the pass we have reached is that everybody wants to spout off, but few want to actually study. Uninformed opinions are just useless rants. Here then, in honor of our dying electoral processes, my little piece from 15 years ago on the Electoral College.)

 

Electoral College Follies

Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich has the chance to do something right. Last month Illinois became the third state to pass the National Popular Vote Bill, which would direct a state’s presidential electors to cast their votes for whoever wins the national popular vote. But in Illinois, unlike Maryland and New Jersey, the bill has not yet become law. In this state the governor has not yet signed the legislation – and has told reporters he is not sure if he will.

On most matters we show a certain reverence for the founders. Well, we should. They created the first democratic republic in history that did not rapidly degenerate into chaos and end in dictatorship. Their achievement is profound: while the United States is one of the youngest nations on the planet we have the oldest continuous form of government. That achievement is doubly impressive if one is aware that, historically, democracy has been one of the most volatile, unstable forms of government known to man. The founders somehow managed to separate the nitro and the glycerin of freedom and create something that would last rather than blow up every time it is jarred.

When in high school I, too, thought the Electoral College a strange, antiquated institution. While in college I came to recognize some of the magnitude of the founders’ achievement. Rather than assuming they had tossed it into the Constitution as some sort of bizarre joke I thought it more useful to do some investigation on what, exactly, was on their minds. (Incidentally, when he was a senator, the late Pres. John Kennedy wrote a very lucid explanation of the Electoral College and why it has served the nation well). The group behind this push, National Popular Vote, Inc. (NPVI), helpfully explains that among the main reasons the Electoral College was originally needed was because of the lack of cell phones, computers, calculators, the internet and other modern inventions. Can they possibly be that stupid?

A presidential election, though held on a single day, is not a single election. It encompasses 50 discrete elections, one in each state. To give an example, suppose the Cubs and the White Sox were in the World Series (you Southern Illinois Cardinal fans can substitute the Cards and the Royals – or better yet, an NLCS between the Cards and the Mets). The White Sox win three games by a score of 10-0. The Cubs win four games by a score of 1-0. The White Sox, in essence, win the popular vote 30-4. But the Cubs win the series because it was not one seven-day long contest to see who could score the most runs. It was seven individual games. Perhaps you think a presidential election should not be the collective decision of the states, but a single expression of the national popular will. Consider some of the real reasons the founders adopted the Electoral College and how these reasons relate to modern circumstances.

First, the states are different sizes. In order to prevent small states from losing all influence and just being swept along by big-state interests in national affairs, the small states’ weight in the electoral college is slightly larger than the big states in comparison to their population, because of the uniform rule of two senators per state, regardless of size (the total number of electors each state gets is equal to the sum of its members of the U.S. House and Senate). Abolish the Electoral System and every presidential election hence would be contested – and decided – in five to eight major urban areas. Small, and even medium size states, might never again even see a presidential candidate. Rural influence on presidential elections would evaporate entirely. After a few elections voters in small states and rural areas would figure out their vote was utterly meaningless. Participation in elections would likely drop because of the futility of it. Tensions between rural and urban interests would become dreadful, perhaps intractable. Even the invention of cell phones hasn’t changed that.

Second, there was the fear of regionalism, that some areas of the country with common interests might band together to hijack national presidential elections by the intensity of their votes. Were it not for the Electoral College this would have actually happened in 1860. There were several southern states in which Abraham Lincoln did not get a single popular vote. Despite having a minority population, the south, by the intensity of its commitment to the slave culture, could have hijacked that election from the rest of the country. The Electoral College prevented that. The Civil War was a great battle both over slavery and national union. The crisis would not have been averted without an Electoral College, only postponed and intensified. The likely end result would have been the Balkanization of what is now America. One of those little filigrees the founders added, to give stability to this great democracy, worked to save the nation and put an end to the sort of regionalism that had, in earlier times, been catalyst for destruction of democracies. Abolishing the Electoral College would likely resurrect the spectre of regionalism. Take a look at the map. West of the Mississippi River every state except California and Texas would become powerless in national elections unless some of them banded together and, as the old south did in 1860, voted monolithically. In the southeast, which states other than Florida and, perhaps, Georgia, would have any influence? Look carefully at the map before glibly injecting this old element of instability back into the prospect of national union that the founders most painstakingly and brilliantly worked to eliminate. The invention of calculators doesn’t change this a whit.

Third, there is the matter of vote fraud. It truly puzzles me that proponents of this plan seem to honestly believe it would make fraud more, rather than less, difficult. The founders created the Electoral College, in part, to make it more difficult for unseemly combinations to conspire to hijack an election. Read that as vote fraud and special interests. It is rare that a conspiracy of fraud in only one state could hijack an election (Evidence of massive fraud in Illinois and Texas, either of which could have changed the election, exists from the 1960 election, but it is the exception, rather than the rule. Even had Nixon chosen to contest the result, he would almost certainly have confined himself to one or both of these states, rather than the even more nightmarish scenario of a national recount). Imagine that polls show an election to be a dead heat in the late going. Conspirators do not have to come up with multiple conspiracies in several states to cheat the electorate: they need only confine themselves to electoral corruption mainstays such as Chicago, Texas, Louisiana, Los Angeles and such. Massive vote fraud in any one would be sufficient to gain a tainted victory where only the national popular vote counts in a dead heat. One need only look at the experience of western democracies where a single, national vote does determine the outcome of the chief executive to see that fraud changing the outcome is easier, not harder than under our “archaic, antiquated system.” The invention of the computer makes such “unseemly combinations” much easier.

Fourth, the legislation is unenforceable. Under the Constitution once electors are chosen, they have the absolute right to vote for whomever they choose. Long-term practice has led to a gentleman’s agreement in which each elector votes for the candidate who won their state’s popular vote. Once a state has chosen its electors, it cannot bind them to vote for anyone in particular. It would require a Constitutional Amendment to change this. In 2000, the Gore campaign actively tried to persuade electors from states that voted for Bush to be ‘faithless’ and vote for Al Gore anyway. In each of the elections of 2000, 1988, 1976 and 1972 a ‘faithless elector’ did vote against who they were pledged to. Any serious enforcement clause injected into NPV legislation might well make it unconstitutional.

Imagine, now, a scenario in which Barack Obama and Rudy Giuliani were their respective party’s nominees (I choose them for this example because of the big states they come from). The election is close as can be. Without Illinois, Giuliani is the victor. Former Chicago City Clerk Jim Laski has been doing interviews of late explaining the “Chicago Way;” how they would accomplish vote fraud not just by forgery and voting the dead, but actually cutting and pasting the chad on absentee ballots if they were cast for the ‘wrong’ candidate. You’re from New York and you have read about all of this. Do you ask your delegation to vote for Obama? And what about the rest of the country? If the legitimacy of a presidential election came down to believing in the electoral integrity of the Chicago precinct captain, what kind of chaos would ensue? Once this boundary was breached it would be far more likely to destroy the gentleman’s agreement among electors than to enhance national unity. The internet could communicate the news, but not stop the chaos.

Over the last century we have abolished many of the elements of stability the founders injected into our unique system of government. A serious student of the history of democracies would be alarmed at the number of symptoms our culture has developed that have previously been precursors to a democracy’s descent into chaos. The elimination of yet another is not a good idea. Contrary to popular (and uninformed) opinion, the Electoral College was not invented by a mad founder as a practical joke.

The head of NPVI, John Koza, is a computer scientist who teaches at Stanford University. I will defer to his judgment on computer, cell phone, and internet technology, regardless of any commentary by founders I might run across. I would ask that, in return, he show a little more respect for the founders’ achievement and expertise.

As for Gov. Blagojevich, he can do both this state and the nation a signal service by following advice from Nancy Reagan: Just say no.

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Just a piece to kick off the New Year by setting terms that we need to know at least the basics of what we are talking about before we go spouting off at the top of our lungs. Let us leave that to the leftists who are busy eating away the substance of our once-magnificent American experiment. 

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34 thoughts on “Electoral College Follies

  1. I can only imagine that the majority of Americans now have never had such a thorough study in government/civics as your article addresses, Charlie. Oy vey, America.

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  2. Great explanation Charlie. The country was not organized as a blob of a single mass, but as a union of individual, sovereign, states. The Senate affords equal voting power by each state, but the House voting for its representatives accommodates the differential number of state citizens. Really a brilliant balancing of state sovereignty with popular voting mass. In fact, our short Constitution is such a magnificent work of intellect, I have become convinced in my old age that God worked to guide its writers while respecting their individual free will. As Charlie points out, our Constitution has enabled a continuing government across centuries, granting that a civil war had to be fought to finally eliminate the original compromise over slavery, whereas all other upstart “democracies” have reliably crashed.

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    1. “In fact, our short Constitution is such a magnificent work of intellect, I have become convinced in my old age that God worked to guide its writers while respecting their individual free will.”
      (JACKHHILLER

      We pray at mass: “…through whom all good things come”.
      So it’s not just it’s intelligence but it’s design for the good that allows it to work so well.
      God cannot be outdone.
      Few nations have been created under the auspice of “one Nation under God”.
      So it worked.
      And as long as we keep God as our pilot, it always will.
      But that’s the trick today, isn’t it?
      Jesus, I Trust in You!

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  3. JESUS, I TRUST IN YOU! .. Merry 10th Day of Christmas!! 😉

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  4. I haven’t been able to read this yet with my babysitting 👩🏻‍🍼 duties but I happened on this and it reminded me of what Charlie often says almost verbatim!!!🥰🙏👩🏻‍🍼🥳

    News and Testimony:

    On December 31, 2023, during Marija’s daily apparition, Our Lady invited everyone that was able, to climb Apparition Hill at 3pm the next day, on January 1, 2024, and spend 3 hours in prayer for Her intentions. At the end of the prayer time, Our Lady appeared to Marija and gave her the following message. Marija said:

    The Mother of God came very happy. She prayed over all of us and for all our intentions, and She blessed us all. She said: “Thank you for having responded to my call and praying for my intentions, you will not regret it, neither you, nor your children and your children’s children.”
    _______________________

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  5. I saw that too, Linda, and it seems significant. During the last little bit of the 3 hours, I joined in prayer with them all (after looking up the time over there to see that it was still going on). May the Lord and His precious Mother help us through these times!!

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    1. To me it sounded like good news! A rescue 🛟 of some sort! The triumph 🥰🥳. Charlie always talks about how this will effect in a good way out children and grandchildren down to the 10tg generation!!!!🥰🥰🥰. Couldn’t help noticing their similar messages🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

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  6. JESUS, I TRUST IN YOU! ….. PS: 😉

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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2022/03/01/carbon-capture-data-doesnt-exist-why-and-what-should-we-do-next/

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  7. JESUS, I TRUST IN YOU! .. Merry St Seton Day!! 😉

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    ….. Damage Has been Done … As Planned!
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    Two Commentaries on the Blessing of ‘Irregular Couples’

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    The New Year: A User’s Guide

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    Col. Douglas Macgregor: Wrongheaded US Military Priorities.

    American Weakness on Display in the Red Sea

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    GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC & ALL HERE!!

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  8. JESUS, I TRUST IN YOU! .. Merry 12th Day of Christmas & St. John Day!! 😉

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    The Utter Insanity of Joe Biden’s Open Border

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    ………. Planned or no, the Vatican Gang have positioned themselves as Defenders of LGBTXXX “Rights” Agenda and those in opposition as “Haters”! Thus aligning with the The Usual godless Political/Media Suspects …. Division & Confusion …. & WORSE coming ;-(
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    GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC & ALL HERE!!

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  9. Personally, I think Texas needs an Electoral College! The blue cities are way too big, and even though the state shows red on a map, those cities have more folks altogether. Our rural counties need a vote!

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  10. JESUS, I TRUST IN YOU! .. Happy Day!! 😉

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    GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC & ALL HERE!!

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  11. If people are expecting Trump to save the day, don’t get your hopes up too high, after all he is a 33rd degree Freemason, Trump tower has some pretty interesting pagan symbology, and he still maintains the COVID shots are safe & effective. Lots of prayer & caution is needed here, as the overplayed theatrics have a feel of a setup. Biden is bad, but Trump is still a unknown quantity that has everyone desperately hoping he’s their hero who will save the day.

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    1. Have you been reading here much, Acad? I ask because a common theme in Charlie’s writing (even starting back at TNRS before Charlie launched ASOH) is that we will not be saved by a man on a white horse. Along with this idea, Charlie has often written that the solutions to what ails us in our society will not come through the political process. Nevertheless, as broken as all our major institutions are, we who know we belong first and foremost to the city of God, are also aware that we are duty bound to build up the city of man. My closing thoughts include a question and a request. Do you have a reliable source which gives solid evidence that Donald Trump is a Freemason? If not, this is a smear on the good name of this man who is not perfect but has done tremendous work for the good of our country and its citizens as well as impacting good in the world. If you do have reliable, solid evidence, please share it here.

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  12. “Have you been reading here much, Acad?”

    I’m a fairly recent reader, going back maybe 2 months. It’s good to know Charlie’s position is that nobody riding a “white horse” is going to save us, because I agree with that.

    What is going to be enough reliable evidence? It’s not going to be announced on any major news outlet. There’s several online critics that take note of Trump’s symbolic hand gestures in public, and the occult symbolism of his Trump towers, all of which are too creepy to talk about. Is Trump going to be a improvement over Biden? Probably yes, but we’re dealing with a unknown quantity and probably a lesser of two evils. I’ll keep a eye open for a reliable source, I don’t exactly bookmark these kind of things in my web browser, so I have to find it again.

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    1. Glad you found your way to us, Acad. Charlie fashioned something marvelous in this community when he began blogging. You’ll want to read the Comment Policy as it sets the grounds for how to communicate in ways that are respectful and that we hold ourselves responsible for what we are saying. The archives here do take time to investigate and read, but they are worth it. I’ll share one old piece which speaks to the good Donald Trump has done while also calling us to be cautious about what’s “out there” on the internet and that piece is here. Just because someone has written something doesn’t make it true. We must be discerning and go to primary sources whenever possible.

      Respectfully, you are already excusing yourself for calling Trump a Freemason without providing readers with the solid evidence that this is so. Because a commenter on some site interprets Trumps gestures as well as the architecture of his building to be symbolic of Freemasonry doesn’t cut it for proof that he is a Freemason. Another point of counsel from Charlie is how important our own credibility is. If we have promoted something that isn’t true because we failed to exert due diligence in getting to the truth of the matter, who will want to trust us when we are partnering with God to co-create a new beginning? What we say (or write) matters and solid sources are not just a good idea to have, but are essential when sharing information and making judgements about people.

      This exchange has been a good opportunity to remind us all about the Comment Policy and the importance of being rigorous in evaluating our sources for information and then going on to search for solid sources.

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  13. Acad,
    We are to judge a man by his fruits.
    St Paul was not trusted by the Apostles after his conversion bacausecof his past reputation but it was a true change and the fruits of his transformation are spectacular!
    I think anyone looking at the “fruits” of Trumps presidency along with the blatant attacks by the “establishment” against him make a clear argument which side he is on, or more appropriately, Who is on his side!
    In modern times the jurist Carl Schmitt (1950) defended the interpretation of Catholic tradition (Bisping and others) that the “Christian Empire” (christliches Reich) as successor of the Roman Empire is the Restrainer (Katechon) of the Antichrist. It is in this tradition that Archbishop Viganò identified Trump with the katechon, viewing Trump as a ruler opposing the forces of darkness.
    So Viganò sees it is the Judeo/Christian formation of our county and the West that is being attacked here. Trump is just the face of it and the true “hero” is our Faith in the power of God working through His chosen leaders.
    If this be so, than Trump isn’t what is at stake but our very way of life and faith which is being persecuted and dismantled.
    “If Trump loses the presidential elections, the final kathèkon [withholder/restrainer] will fail (2 Thess 2:6-7), that which prevents the “mystery of iniquity” from revealing itself, and the dictatorship of the New World Order.”
    ( Answer to Francesco Boezi, an italian journalist with the newspaper «Il Giornale», who asked Archbishop Viganò what if Trump looses the election in 2020? )
    https://onepeterfive.com/mystery-antichrist/

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    1. Trump is against the NWO and collectivisim,. He is pro-Judeo Christian. He wants to protect the nation state (and most especially the USA) He has been very effective in giving its leaders a giant headache and messing up their plans. Therefore, they hate him and love Biden and Francis because both of them have allowed them to move full speed ahead. When I pray, I pray for Trump and his family. Trump is undoubtedly putting his life at risk and he has to know this. Of course, he is a flawed man but he also has a clear vision of what is happening at this moment in history and is not afraid to state it. People who support Trump know that he cannot be bought. And I believe that is why his base is strong. Where can we find a politician who cannot be bought by special interests in the modern day?

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  14. JESUS, I TRUST IN YOU! .. Happy Day!! 😉

    The Virgin Mary loves beautiful views in France!

    Vatican investigates miracles of Japanese Christian samurai

    https://catholicexchange.com/have-an-attentive-end-to-your-christmas/

    https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/single-minded-magi/

    https://catholicexchange.com/why-do-people-hate-the-catholic-church/

    https://www.oursundayvisitor.com/my-catholic-wish-list-for-2024/

    https://www.lifenews.com/2024/01/08/joe-bidens-top-priority-if-re-elected-kill-more-babies-in-abortions/
    https://www.lifenews.com/2024/01/08/joe-bidens-top-priority-if-re-elected-kill-more-babies-in-abortions/

    “Men must be governed by God or they will be ruled by tyrants”- Wm Penn
    That above quote is enough to get THEM apoplectic 😉
    https://catholicvote.org/biden-admin-agency-reverses-course-will-not-tear-down-william-penn-statue/

    https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/facing-the-whirlwind-with-a-wiseman

    The 100sq miles around your Foxhole is what’s important!
    https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/adopting-a-medieval-peasant-mindset

    https://newstarget.com/2024-01-08-covid-vaccine-rollout-increase-disabled-american-working-women.html

    https://allenwest.substack.com/p/three-crucial-words-for-our-constitutional

    https://reclaimthenet.org/apa-wants-more-federal-funding-to-curb-online-misinformation

    HEADLINE Overload:
    https://thefederalist.com/
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/
    https://townhall.com/
    https://www.zerohedge.com/
    https://thedailybs.com/news/
    https://patriotpost.us/digests/103458-mid-day-digest-2024-01-09
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/
    https://links.glennbeck.com/view/55d278157d0973635efe6258k7exr.1w2n/9e9536cd
    https://pjmedia.com/

    GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC & ALL HERE!!

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  15. JESUS, I TRUST IN YOU! .. Happy Day!! 😉

    https://spiritdaily.org/blog/spiritual-warfare/a-prayer-for-you

    World War III? Mary at Cuapa-What Heaven Wants-Fr. Chris Alar

    https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/that-book-the-black-nazarene-and

    I’m sure these are good people but they will be used by Democrats. A Vote for any conservative 3rd National Party is a Vote for godless Democrat Party USA! VOTE SMART!
    https://www.ncregister.com/cna/meet-peter-sonski-the-catholic-you-ve-never-heard-of-who-s-running-for-president

    https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/the-vaticans-two-chinas-problem

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/judge-rules-against-pro-choice-notre-dame-professor-lawsuit-conservative-student-paper

    https://catholicfamilynews.com/blog/2024/01/09/special-report-god-and-man-after-yale/

    https://www.catholicleague.org/religious-profiling-of-chick-fil-a/

    https://catholicvote.org/hhs-issues-final-conscience-rule/

    PRAY that Cdl Angelo (Angel of Darkness) Becciu Gets Justice!
    https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/be-a-pell

    Well! .. a BA Degree & ROTC got me 2LT Bars and a slot @ Pilot School.
    https://onepeterfive.com/what-can-you-do-with-a-liberal-arts-degree/

    https://spiritdailyblog.com/prophecy/1990-prophecy-messages-part-ii

    https://allenwest.substack.com/p/allen-west-simon-ateba

    The Transition

    https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-aarp-just-told-its-38-million

    https://criticallythinking.substack.com/p/critical-thinking-is-the-answer

    https://stream.org/category/us/
    https://links.glennbeck.com/view/55d278157d0973635efe6258k7q0s.1nl3/bd06a7aa
    https://thedailybs.com/news/
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
    https://www.frontpagemag.com/
    https://hotair.com/
    https://pjmedia.com/

    GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC & ALL HERE!!

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  16. JESUS, I TRUST IN YOU! ….. PS: 😉

    THE ENEMY WITHIN and THEIR confederates!
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/09/hopelessly-corrupt-judge-james-boasberg-gives-ray-epps-the-james-wolfe-and-kevin-clinesmith-treatment-probation-for-ray-epps/

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/how-does-a-navy-sailor-spying-for-china-come-away-with-only-2-years-in-prison/

    https://republicsentinel.com/articles/opinion-the-solution-to-the-military-recruitment-crisis-is-not-a-military-loyalty-crisis

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/01/they_hate_the_military.html

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/wayne-root-because-open-borders-are-you-waiting/

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/01/the_roots_of_lawfare.html

    https://themostimportantnews.com/archives/americas-biggest-problem
    …. HullyGee! How many Illegals w/weapons did NOT get caught!? Not to Worry! Your Feral Gubermint will protect you … NOW! Turn in Your Guns!!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/illegal-aliens-tried-buying-guns-48000-times-25-years

    https://thefederalist.com/2024/01/09/democrats-statue-toppling-is-a-dress-rehearsal-for-going-after-actual-people/

    Big Fani & LoverBoy may be dumber than a box o rocks but THEY know who all the corrupt Get Trump GA/Swamp DC Operators are and, no doubt, will use that knowledge to leverage Get Out of Jail Cards.
    THEIR Narratives are collapsing EVERYWHERE. That makes THEM Very Dangerous!
    https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/fani-willis-prosecutor-in-trump-georgia-case-subpoenaed-to-testify-in-colleagues-divorce-c8e3fda5

    https://thedailybs.com/2024/01/10/bs-daily-political-cartoons-bidens-new-regulations

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!

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  17. JESUS, I TRUST IN YOU! .. Happy Day!! 😉

    The Point now, future, is LOCAL! Your Town/County/State is what’ss important and The Local Angle has been long neglected! ;-(
    https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/whats-the-point

    https://www.lifenews.com/2024/01/10/planned-parenthood-caught-admitting-it-does-secret-abortions-on-teens-so-the-parents-wont-find-out/

    https://floppingaces.net/most-wanted/a-psa-to-liberals-judgment-day-is-coming/

    https://mises.org/wire/establishment-unmasking-itself

    https://www.declassified.live/p/the-hackery-of-judge-florence-pan

    https://www.wnd.com/2024/01/civil-rights-act-didnt-work/

    https://revolver.news/2024/01/beattie-and-poso-call-out-one-overlooked-part-of-ray-epps-probation/
    https://revolver.news/2023/09/merrick-garland-sloppy-ray-epps-plea-deal-its-worse-than-you-think/

    It’s still a great mystery to me how a plug door blows out under Cabin Pressure!??
    https://babylonbee.com/news/boeing-ceo-assures-nervous-flyers-that-all-737-aircraft-are-built-to-the-highest-diversity-standards

    https://dailycaller.com/2024/01/11/chinese-landowner-billionaire-ccp/

    https://catholicvote.org/
    https://stream.org/category/us/
    https://www.americanthinker.com/

    Home


    https://thedailybs.com/news/
    https://links.glennbeck.com/view/55d278157d0973635efe6258k7zpo.1xm7/9f10ec0e
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/
    https://www.zerohedge.com/
    https://patriotpost.us/digests/103528-mid-day-digest-2024-01-11

    GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC & ALL HERE!!

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  18. Good morning!

    The comments were closed on the original thread in regards to the Declaration on blessings of Fiducia Supplicans.

    But I wanted to give an update that as I reflected on the document more and listened to various analyses, Charlie’s comment about “turning oneself into a pretzel” definitely started to take on a stronger case.

    I won’t go on forever, but the main reasons surround this third category of “couples.” There are individuals and unions/marriages, but this 3rd category of “couples” seemed to have been created.

    And it is hard to figure out exactly what the ontological status of this category of couple is, and how it differs form a sort of union. (As well as how it doesn’t contradict what was issued in 2021 and by Pope Benedict XVI and St. Pope JPII.)

    Anyways, I always find Dr. Ed Feser’s thoughts helpful, even if one doesn’t fully agree with him:

    https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2023/12/what-is-couple.html

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    1. Philip & Gang,

      Fiducia Supplicans had little to do with Rainbow Pairs!!!!!

      The OBJECT was to cause Confusion, Division and Anger within The Christian Church at large and be a major DISTRACTION from the orchestrated meltdown of Western Civilization and transformation of Planet Earth into a godless New Order controlled by The “Elites”.
      Further discussion about Fiducia Supplicans is, quite simply, a waste of time and … see above!

      I am convinced that PF & his Vatican co-conspirators have been following The Agenda since PB16’s mysterious departure.
      The Playbook for the Vatican, Democrat Party USA and EU/NZ/AU Left has been in near Lock-Step since then.

      JESUS, I TRUST IN YOU & SAVE ALL HERE!

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  19. JESUS, I TRUST IN YOU! .. Happy Day!! 😉

    https://mailchi.mp/jkmi/all-souls-day-1068610?e=b654649ef1

    https://spiritdailyblog.com/inspiration/stop-running

    https://onepeterfive.com/african-bishops-recognize-resist-pope/

    https://apnews.com/article/vatican-baldacchino-basilica-restoration-8b59dc9317bbff9214943c5438aa9f57
    https://catholicvote.org/biden-admin-to-make-farming-grants-to-poor-countries-depend-on-lgbt-compliance/
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jan/11/archaeologists-proving-bible-with-each-stunning-di/

    https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/the-homo-prosperity-gospel

    https://catholicvote.org/democratic-activist-fired-as-dei-coordinator-at-catholic-high-school/

    https://pjmedia.com/victor-davis-hanson/2024/01/12/biden-saves-democracy-by-destroying-it-n4925414

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/andrew-napolitano-donald-trump-arthur-engoron/2024/01/11/id/1149289/

    How’s JoeBama’s Transformation of The USA working out for Ya!?
    https://revolver.news/2024/01/this-once-safe-picturesque-all-american-wisconsin-town-has-turned-into-an-unsafe-shthole-thanks-to-illegals/

    https://www.lifenews.com/2024/01/11/donald-trump-democrats-are-radicals-on-abortion-because-they-support-abortions-up-to-birth/
    https://www.lifenews.com/2024/01/11/jill-biden-we-have-to-keep-fighting-for-abortions-up-to-birth/

    https://brownstone.org/articles/the-first-amendment-brought-to-you-by-pfizer/

    https://www.axios.com/2024/01/11/gender-dysphoria-statistics-us-map

    https://revolver.news/2024/01/archbishop-carlo-maria-vigano-better-sleep-with-both-eyes-open-after-he-links-hillary-to-pizzagate/

    https://thefederalist.com/
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/
    https://thedailybs.com/news/
    https://www.zerohedge.com/
    https://hotair.com/

    GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC & ALL HERE!!

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  20. JESUS, I TRUST IN YOU! .. Happy Day!! 😉

    https://catholicexchange.com/look-for-jesus-just-like-the-magi-did/

    https://catholicvote.org/because-love-is-the-answer-pre-march-life-fest-set-to-return-to-dc-january-19/

    https://stream.org/nikki-haley-let-abortion-zealots-run-wild/

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2023/12/27/leprosy_polio_malaria_tb_measles__and_massive_unscreened_illegal_immigration_1000817.html
    …… and what is Christian about the shady “Catholic” Orgs that aid & abet same!?
    https://catholicvote.org/former-cbp-chief-on-loopcast-what-is-christian-about-biden-border-policies/
    ….. Oh! THEY plan to “Pack” SCOTUS along wit ALL swing States with Undocumented Democrats to …… ;-(
    https://mrctv.org/blog/craig-bannister/dhs-tells-scotus-border-patrol-forced-bring-illegals-us-under-suboptimal
    …. more Cloward-Piven + Rules for Radicals … In-Action!
    https://mycharisma.com/culture/politics/is-trump-gods-chosen-instrument/

    https://economicprism.com/yellens-bald-faced-lies/

    https://catholicexchange.com/what-it-means-to-bless-something-or-someone/
    …. In YOUR Kids/Grandkids Face!!! …. FIX BAYONETS!
    https://catholicvote.org/popular-video-game-played-by-kids-contains-overt-lgbtq-material/

    https://mycharisma.com/culture/politics/is-trump-gods-chosen-instrument/

    https://floppingaces.net/2024/01/12/the-week-in-radical-leftism-01-12-2024/

    https://www.declassified.live/p/brad-raffensperger-from-bold-claims

    https://www.wnd.com/category/front-page/
    https://patriotpost.us/digests/103557-mid-day-digest-2024-01-12
    https://newsbusters.org/
    https://townhall.com/
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/
    https://thedailybs.com/news/
    https://www.zerohedge.com/

    GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC & ALL HERE!!

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